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❎❎® ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 72 Thu Jan 28, 1988 M.DEVLIN [Mark] at 18:09 PST Yea: Quit yapping and keep playing! hahaha ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 73 Fri Jan 29, 1988 PG.BROUSSARD at 23:43 CST STACE- I WOULD LOVE TO BE ADMITTED TO THE CAT 21 TOPIC 2 SECTION---THANKS, PAUL ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 74 Sat Jan 30, 1988 DARLAH at 00:46 EST STACE no longer can let you in but I will. The address to ask for entry is ADMIT$ ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 75 Sat Jan 30, 1988 L.BURSTYN at 05:56 MST I also want access to cat 21. I'm on Level 2/3 and can't seem to find anyway accross the open pits. I've searched the walls & floors and found nothing to close the pit doors. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 76 Sat Jan 30, 1988 DARLAH at 12:54 EST Your in but please send mail to ADMIT$ for any future entrys. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 77 Sat Jan 30, 1988 GEHENDERSON at 13:23 CST Thanks guys I have finally found the key and now I am or maybe I should say that I was on my way. I am on level two and now I am having a hard time trying to kill the rock monsters. What do I have to do to get past them. thankyou. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 78 Sun Jan 31, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 04:44 PST Has anyone else had a character (one of the front rank fighters, at close to full Health of 400-500 points) suddenly die in an encounter, without anyone else in the party being hurt? Any idea whether this is the result of some sort of spell or just a critical hit? It's pretty intimidating when it happens! It's happened about four times to me now, twice against Materializers (what FTL calls the "Astral Ropes"), and twice against Fire Elementals. The second time, I looked around carefully, and there were no other monsters in the vicinity except the Fire Elemental (unless, of course, if there *are* Air Elementals, and they're invisible). I wouldn't call the "Rock Squids" Earth Elementals. Maybe the monsters on the Firestaff level (although I think of them more as Stone Golems). I wouldn't call a Ghost an Air Elemental, either. But that's just my opinion as a long time D&D player. We (I, my wife Lori, and our friend Kennita, both of whom normally hate computer games) are getting close to the end. We had to abort our last expedition, as we'd lost the Firestaff in an area where we couldn't get back to it! We played on for awhile, and did find the Power Gem, though. What a wonderful game! FTL, in a conference on CI$, says they are going to try to come out with 4-6 new scenarios *a year*, using the same game system, but not necessarily in a D&D/fantasy vein. We'll see. Has anyone noticed characters' maximum Mana gradually dropping, perhaps as a result of saving the game? Several characters have lost 2-8 Mana points over the last few expeditions. Any ideas what could be doing it? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 79 Sun Jan 31, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 06:18 PST On the "Astral Rope" (FTL calls them "Materializers") level, some of the buttons have *very* remote effects. You have to press a loose brick in one part of the level to open the room (small one in the center of a much larger one) with the key to one of the "colorful" locks. After you've defeated the Knight there, search his possessions for the next key you need. Then you need to push an obvious button with non-obvious effect. It opens a room way at the other end of the dungeon with another Knight and some items you will probably want/need. This was by far the deadliest level up to that point. We finally came up with strategies that would work against each of the monsters on the level, the Materializers being the most deadly. However, the next level makes this one seem like a cake-walk! Did you find the Darc armor? Not sure if it's needed, but I like the concept of having one character wearing Lyte, and the other in Darc (Hissssa, of course!) "Balance", you know! Green gem: You pushed a switch, which dropped the chest containing the gem down to the next level. Push it again to close the pit, and find a way to get the green gem back where the chest was originally (behind the grate). There are at least 2.5 ways of doing this. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 80 Sun Jan 31, 1988 CAPT.COOK at 12:50 EST Or don't push the switch at all, then the green gems never leaves! Argh! I went back to the firestaff level after picking up the third RA key. What a mistake! How many RA keys are there? And how in heck do you kill a golem? -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 81 Sun Jan 31, 1988 MCIENFUEGOS at 12:08 PST How do you kill the rock monsters???? HelPPPP! thanx, MHC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 82 Sun Jan 31, 1988 CAPT.COOK at 19:39 EST The door trick helps. Also, the weaken spell. Other than that, jsut keep hacking (in my dialect of english, jsut roughly translates to just) luckily, they don't do much damage, but the do become tedious. OK high levelers. I've cleared all of the "spider/knight" level 'cept the area behind "Cowards will be hunted down and killed" What next? I suspect it's time to head back up, as a brief journey to the next level down got me slain very quickly. Any tips? -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 83 Sun Jan 31, 1988 M.DEVLIN [Mark] at 22:54 PST Nuts...I forgot what I was gonna say...be back in a sec :) ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 84 Sun Jan 31, 1988 M.DEVLIN [Mark] at 22:56 PST Now I remember! I don't know of the uses/features of Darc armour, but Lyte is great! No weight to it! ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 85 Tue Feb 02, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 04:30 PST Capt.Cook: You really ought to explore the "Cowards..." area if you can take it (a green Magical Box and/or Horn of Fear might help). There are some very useful items there. My take on the next level down is that it is a death trap. If you haven't thoroughly explored the Firestaff level yet, now is the time to do it. Then I'd proceed to the bottom level (mind you, I've only tried this in a very odd way. I know at least four routes to the bottom level, and can't say whether any of the other three will get you killed). There is something you need down there, which will probably prove useful on the Fire Elemental/Demon level. Oops, just saw your "Golem" message. There are just four Ra keys that I know of (the fourth is on the Firestaff level). As to killing Golems, I took a tip from John Satriano -- fill your fighters full of Ku potions, with maybe a few Ros potions thrown in for good measure. Then hack the golems to bits. Also, they're slow, so you can use any techniques you've developed for fighting slow, non-spellcasting monsters. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 86 Tue Feb 02, 1988 DARLAH at 11:09 EST Looks like I have to buy this program. Cowards area...ha ha ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 87 Tue Feb 02, 1988 CAPT.COOK at 19:19 EST Thanks for the tips. Horn of fear, eh? Damn crabs oops, spiders, are a pain! BTW, they are neither crabs nor spiders - not enough legs to be either. <smug grin> -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 88 Tue Feb 02, 1988 HTCOLONNA at 21:08 EST I never really got the horn of fear to do too much interesting. I'm not sure what it is. To tell you the truth, I do think that alot of these things are having an effect, but no one knows exactly what the effect is. For instance, 1 necklace may decrease some monster's ability to hit first blow. Unfortunatley, there's really no way to know what's happening. The horn of fear may increase chances of a monster running before dying (some do run as you have noticed). The only real solution would be 1) alter the program to inform a user somehow of what each item does OR 2)have the user to conduct vast studies of what each item does. Very time consuming, and unlikely, considering that every user is rushing to finish the game. The bottom line is, however, (I could write an essay on this), even though you're not sure exactly what an objet does, it adds to the exciement and "mystery" to the game. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 89 Tue Feb 02, 1988 J.D.THOMAS at 22:12 EST Hmmm. Well, I finished the game, and not until level 13/14 did I figure out that those skeleton heads on the walls were more than just mere wall decorations. So gotta start over! Missed a lot of things. For the most part, I just sorted "brute forced" my way dow. Also, I'm curious as to what are speedboots, and why are they used. I never picked up any of, not even seen any of them. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 92 Wed Feb 03, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 18:25 PST I think I found 3 sets of "Boots of Speed", have the back-rank characters wearing two. No terribly obvious advantage to them, unless my strategy of outrunning fireballs doesn't work without them (I don't think it matters). Lori and I have taken four or five or six parties down into the dungeon, finding new areas and interesting things on virtually every level, every time. Think we've got most of it sewn up in super-careful maps now, though. (We x-ray every wall that can possibly be hiding something). ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 93 Thu Feb 04, 1988 W.ROSS1 at 00:16 PST HELP !! I've been stuck for 3 days now at the hall at end of the I HATE 2>Cowards corridor, every time I enter the hall with my last key the doo*h ses on me and I'm trapped cos my key won't open the door and the other corridor , through the blue mist won't let me through - I think I'm eithe A C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C in the wrong place or something--HELP!!! all my guys either starve to death A D D C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C or I have to kill them off ( to prevent their suffering). also what do I have to do to gain access to the specific hints sec 21 ?? Do I have to request this from DARLAH if so can I ask you here ?? also " hell-o to Mark Devlin , I see you are up here also thanks for the A C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C help and remember " keep a slashin' ...... regards Bill ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 94 Thu Feb 04, 1988 A.HATTLESTAD at 01:16 MST COREY, your "Boots of Speed" - are these speed boots? if so, notice that the characters may still move at normal speed while in the yellow load zone. This is in contrast to the noticable delay in movement yellow zone normally entails. enjoy! ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 95 Thu Feb 04, 1988 W.ROSS1 at 00:27 PST sorry about the cunfusing looking previous letter but I'm not familiar with this message editor , basically what I'm looking for is a means of getting access to #21 -- I really need so specific hints ( actually somtimes I think I shoul find someone else to play the game for me and then tell me how I did :) :) It took me over a week at 4+ hours a night to get past those worms and the mummy to get down to the next level At this rate of progress my kids will be grown up and out of the house and my wife will leave me or I will die of old age before I finish -- thats how I feel tonight anyway ....thanks and best regards, Bill ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 96 Thu Feb 04, 1988 D.FLORY [AtaribaseBBS] at 11:19 EST send E-mail to ADMIT$ for access to cat #21. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 98 Thu Feb 04, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 22:43 PST Darlah: Please let me know if I'm getting too explicit in my answers for this section. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 99 Thu Feb 04, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 22:50 PST A.Hattlestad: Thanks. I thought it was something like that, but didn't notice. Wonder if the extra load affects Stamina much. Bill: The purple worm level was the most time-consuming for me (and probably most people); take heart! Get your wife hooked on the game so she'll play with you. Mine keeps track of spells, whether people are getting hurt, and contributes to strategy, while I do the keyboarding (I dodge monsters better). In the "I hate cowards", you're in the right place, but you need to make it through the curtains (there's another on the other side of that door). How can you get the door open from here? I did it the first time by getting the mouse in just the right position, moving and clicking.... but there's a more reasonable method you've used before -- still need to get your timing right, but there's more leeway. After that, it's just a question of moving forward at precisely the right moments. May take quite a few tries if you're as poor an arcade gamer as I am. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 100 Fri Feb 05, 1988 DARLAH at 02:02 EST Corey...I can't. You see I have not played this yet. Hopefully all of you will keep me in line and tell me when explicit hints are appearing. I am counting on you! :-) ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 101 Sat Feb 06, 1988 D.FLORY [AtaribaseBBS] at 02:40 EST I'd like to tell you that you really should play it, but I can't. We can't spare you for two weeks. It's all I can do to go to work 40 hours of a week. The time out of the dungeon is all dull. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 102 Sat Feb 06, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 02:51 PST That's really sad, Dave. Reminds me of the time when I started "shading" my work hours more and more until I was on a 25-hour work week (programmers can sometimes get away with that, at least for a while), because I was spending every available moment either creating scenarios for D&D or playing in the CalTech Warlock D&D games. Maybe we need some sort of self-help organization for gameaholics. By the way, Dungeon Master is having almost as much effect, including on our friend who's supposed to work fairly normal hours. She "hates computer games", but "has to win Dungeon Master." Classic symptoms. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 103 Fri Feb 05, 1988 ALF (Forwarded) Okay, I'm stuck. I am on the level after the "room of the GEM". I think it's considered third level. Anyhow, I cannot figure out how to kill the green "ghost" creature. And the purple worms and rock monsters are just beating the crap outa me. So, can anyone out there give me some EXPLICIT help here? If so, email it to me (ALF). I'd be for appreciating it... --- Me --- ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 104 Sat Feb 06, 1988 D.FLORY [AtaribaseBBS] (Forwarded) ALF, send e-mail to ADMIT$ and ask for enty to cat 21. Topic 2 there is loaded with Explicit info, among which are answers to all the questions in this last message. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 105 Sat Feb 06, 1988 SGLANG (Forwarded) As a recommendation as soon as you finish the purple worm level once, I would start over with a new party and go back in starting at the beginning. It will be much easier this time. Should take about 3-4 hours to get down here now that you know the puzzles. ---STeve ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 106 Sat Feb 06, 1988 RCOSGROVE (Forwarded) I NEED SOME HELP! I AM AT ABOUT THE 5TH LEVEL OF THE DUNGEON AND I CAN NOT GET ANY FURTHER UNTIL I GET 4 KEYS ( I THINK). THE PLACE WHERE I AM STUCK HAS 4 ROOMS, 1 WITH SKELETONS WITH SHIELDS, 2 WITH BEHOLDER TYPE CREATURES AND ANOTHER ONE. EACH ROOM HAS A KEY TO OPEN UP 4 DOORS AND THE END OF THE HALL, I GOT THREE OF THE KEYS BUT I CAN NOT GET THE KEY BEHIND THE IRON GATE IN THE ROOM WITH THE TRAP DOOR AND MAGIC WALL. LEAVE MAIL TO RCOSGOVE ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 107 Sun Feb 07, 1988 D.FLORY [AtaribaseBBS] at 02:26 EST I got the answer to that problem in Cat. 21, leave E-mail to Admit$ for entry clearance. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 108 Sun Feb 07, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 22:30 PST RCOSGROVE: You only need to solve three of those puzzles (the one you're stuck on is the hardest; there are at least two ways to solve it, however). There's another iron key hidden under something a little later in the level; getting *all* of the iron keys simply gives you access to one more room with some treasure and monsters (useful stuff, but not required). ALF: You haven't been reading all your scrolls. Tsk. One of them has the answer you seek. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 109 Mon Feb 08, 1988 T.DOMBROWSKI at 22:55 CST IV*H I'VE BEEN NOTING THE COMMENTS REGARDING DM. IM AWARE OF THE BUGS IN THE END BUT HAS ANYONE BEEN FIGHTING A PROBLEM WITH THE "SAVE GAME" FUNCTIONS? IT SEEMS THAT INFREQUENTLY THE GAME FAILS TO SAVE TO DISK, OR FORMATT PROPORLY. IT SAYS VERSION 1.0. WHEN I TRY TO PUT THE DM MASTER DISK BACK IN, THE RESPONSE IS..."THIS IS NOT THE MASTER DISK" !!!!! IM RUNNING IT ON A 1040ST WHICH IS IN PERFECT WORKING ORDER. ANYONE FEELNG NOBLE, PLEASE RESPOND. THANK YOU. T.DOMBROWSKI ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 110 Mon Feb 08, 1988 GREEN at 23:58 EST %*&#&@!!! Could someone give me EXACT instructions(email) as to how to put the green gem back ( behind the grate-level 8) I did it once by accident, how ever, I have been unable to do it since ( I didn't save it!) Please, I am pulling my hair out! Thanks! ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 111 Tue Feb 09, 1988 D.FLORY [AtaribaseBBS] at 00:07 EST GREEN - send E-mail to ADMIT$ or entrance to Cat-21, answered there several times. That's where I found the answer when I needed it. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 112 Tue Feb 09, 1988 CAPT.COOK at 18:51 EST Green - I kept the green gem, never saw any difference....? T.Dombrowski - funny you should mention that. I've had DM pretty much since it has existed, and last night, for the first time, I had that problem. Now, I use 3 different save disks, so I just switched, and it worked with the second one I tried. I have no idea what caused it, but you may try formatting a couple of disks just in case. Note that the DM format is nothing special - ie, you don't have to format them in DM, in fact, I use Twister formatted DS disks (just cause that was what I had handy). Good luck, if it really bothers you, you probably could return your disk to FTL for the new version. -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 113 Tue Feb 09, 1988 D.FLORY [AtaribaseBBS] at 21:09 EST Everyone does know that they can collect their save games on a double sided disk and accumulate around 20 or so right? Each time you save the game it renames the last on as DMGAME.BAK. If you then rename it to something like DMGAME12.DAT, it just sits there. You can go back to it any time by naming it DMGAME.DAT again. Anyone interested in having some Save games uploaded? I'm only at level 7 or 8 but if any one wants I'll upload a couple of the stages to getting there. If so just ask and you shall receive. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 114 Tue Feb 09, 1988 HTCOLONNA at 21:11 EST I have heard that a STOLEN (I refuse to use the romaticized word of STOLEN) copy of DungeonMaster messes up disks - someone messed up STEALING it. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 115 Tue Feb 09, 1988 CAPT.COOK at 21:37 EST Hi Henry, are you still around!? I bought UIV - everything you said about it was pretty much on the mark. PS: I've also gotten the system error 62. Oh, and I'm playing with the original, so I don't think that's a factor in this case - least, i know it's not in my case. -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 117 Wed Feb 10, 1988 PIONEER at 18:26 EST I've never had trouble reloading , but once I used a very heavily used disk for a save disk and when I reloaded the characters they had all kinds of neat stuff in all the wrong places! Robes on heads, staffs on feet, etc. fun to see but I saved over that party. Pete ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 118 Wed Feb 10, 1988 THUD.ROOTER at 19:09 PST I have found a spell that doesn't appear to be in the files here. It is allegedly an invisibility spell. I haven't tried it in battle. Found it on the level with the nights (11 I believe). If someone will tell me how to gety into 21 I will post it.*H Make that Knights. Darlah Help!!!*s ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 119 Thu Feb 11, 1988 DARLAH [RT SYSOP] at 00:35 EST Mr. Thud.Rooter: From the prompt just type SET 21 then REA <-- follow the prompts. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 120 Thu Feb 11, 1988 COREY [COREY.COLE] at 19:41 PST The invisibility spell doesn't seem to do all that much good. Monsters seem to have a slightly harder time hitting you (they do a bit less damage). The spell doesn't appear to last very long, though it's hard to tell since there's no visual feedback from it. The big advantage is if you want to sneak past an area entirely without encountering monsters. Most can't see you, so won't attack, unless you attack first. (Maybe that's what is really going on with the "short duration", is that it works like AD&D invisibility -- goes away if you attack.) ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 121 Sat Feb 13, 1that steel grate door. I read the scroll and tried to 'toss' the gem across the door with no luck. Please send E-mail. Pete S.